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In what may appear like one black hole absorbing another, Dwayne Melançon (@ThatDwayne), CTO of Tripwire, interviewed the founder and former CTO of Tripwire, Gene Kim (@RealGeneKim) on his new book, “The Phoenix Project” cowritten with Kevin Behr and George Spafford.

Quoting its tagline, “’The Phoenix Project’ is a novel about IT, DevOps, and helping your business win.”

Kim has a strong love of the study of high performers, and this book was the result of a moral crusade. It shows what happens when developers, operations, and information security can’t work together. They do severe damage to themselves and the business as a whole. The novel shows what happens when you’re in a downward spiral and then how good things can be when you go on the virtuous upward spiral and help the business win, said Kim.

The DevOps Movement

The way out of the downward spiral is the merger of development and operations, said Kim. “Instead of being at each other’s throats, [developers and IT operations] are working together in a way that they get incredible fast flow of work done through the IT organization while preserving stability, reliability, and security for the environment.”

“It’s an important pattern because it helps us break this core chronic conflict that says, development and operations don’t need to be at war and information security doesn’t have to be marginalized and sidelined as a result,” said Kim.

Melançon noted that he and his friends who read it saw more of themselves and their coworkers of this book.

“It’s not just a book to help us find our way out, but to help us find our fellow travelers,” said Kim.