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We’re going to be facing a new threat soon that doesn’t want the network to work, said Jeff Moss, founder of Black Hat and DefCon.

Moss outlined the two major areas of digital crime. One is organized crime which is interested in money and the second is governments and nation states which are interested in secrets. While the two are mutually exclusive, both need the network to function. Moss thinks there’s going to be a third group that we’ve never seen before. Some type of activist group that’s trying to raise awareness for some cause. Their goal will be to force the network to stop functioning. It’s a very different type of threat that we haven’t dealt with.

Moss and I also talk about the advancement of commerce online. Moss asks, “Think about how much more security we could do if we could trust our email?”